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I do understand what you mean, but I cannot tell them what didn't work for me. I committed many mistakes that at the end of the day didn't help me improve and got me frustrated over it until I found the solution elsewhere. Let me tell you I am doing all of this not for ill intent but because I do not want others to live the same stuff I went through, I genuinelly want to help others learn the best way I can.😖😭

better yet, do 15 seconds sketches. the point of gesture drawing is that you shouldn't care of what comes out. https://imgur.com/a/i3kt1Qs you must learn how many bodyparts can be drawn in less lines as possible with no actual understanding of 3d shapes and so on. squinting your eyes can help too since you must not understand all those details. that is the first step

Anyways, that exercise didn't taught me how to draw a rib cage. I just copied the same image over and over for no reason.

https://imgur.com/a/bvEDznJ

I had problems with one in particular, i tried doing it over and over again but it just doesn't work.

as I said before, don't even do it to improve. just do it to spend time some way

Yet, am I in the wrong for not consuming it the RIGHT way? or are those that do not understand those books in the wrong because they are not meant to learn art in the first place?

Yeah, as I said. when it comes to the lines it is all straighforward. Every source can do its job. Regarding all those realistic and really complicated designs... that requires beyond expert level of artistic talent to understand. I do not want to discourage you but many artists, especially in the east had a particular upbringing from a very VERY early age. It is all OK if by inspiration you man using some of their ideas, but in case of artistry or comlpexity it's not like asking to draw in the Fairly Odd parents style. Trying to emulate him would bring every novice at a disadvantage.

I tell you all of this because I was really ambitious in terms of inspiration. I thought I could rival many Disney animators if I just understood the behind the scenes and so on. But in reality those people never even started asking for help in some art forum, 'cos they always had the right masters teaching them the job. If they couldn't make it at that level on their own what makes you think I should? So at the end of the day I've learned to just start from the bottom. It's quite a good thing you like things that have a simpler art style, that doesn't mean their art sucks, but their decisions are based in simplicity and function.

Ok, there is still something you can learn at the moment. let's start from the line. the way you draw makes me think you move the hand really slowly. Well when I am talking about stable lines I mean make each line with a simple swoop, do not put time or effort into it. flick your entire Forearm to make it as much natural as possible. In this case every single tutorial can help you with that. Try the drawabox site where you can find descriptions and so on or you can look at the BaM Animation channel where they can give you some exercises on how to train your arm in doing said lines. usually [url=]this video[/url] was the one that taught me to fill a page with lines.



[url=&t=380s]Or this one[/url] where it gives you more exercises but doesn't put as much effort in explaining them.That is the first thing I ask you to learn, then You can think about gesture, force, structure and all that crap.

Looking at your influence map I can maybe help you with simple or iconic character design like in the case of Super Mario or Pizza Tower, the Kentaro Miura style might be a little too much for the both of us.

Just to be honest, if you already know how to draw a stable line that is where all progress is going to stop.

I am not making any of this up, this is the end line. I have been drawing random people badly (which is what gesture drawing is all about) for the last few months and I still don't know what I am even doing. All tutorials and outside media are made by people who already know anatomy, yet anatomy cannot be learned unless you know gesture drawing, can you see the logic here?

the alternative is to draw each shape of the body the same way an architect would, you'll need to learn 3d shapes subdivided regularly that bend in different directions, but that requires so many construction lines you'll not be able to see the drawing.

My biggest advice is: draw like you have nothing to learn, do stuff at random, chase all the wild geese you want and be shure to get distracted enough to not let your frustration ruin the process. In my case I have been turning pokemon designs into simple shapes. If you want I can teach you those shapes

I don't think there are. maybe some reddit sub but it is way easyier to get unsubstantial feedback

Hi, I am again picking up a completely different method to learn to draw and somehow arrive at gesture drawing and finally to anatomy. Here is the link, tell me how can I improve. Apparently I can't understand how to give them thiccness, so if anyone knows how to do that might be great.

https://imgur.com/a/tDQoyga

All drawings look rough but the spine and the head are hands down the best part, they are incredibly smooth. Now, i can also see many attempts at breaking down the body into different shapes, it's not wrong doing so but I do not recommand it for beginners unless they are 5 minutes for each drawing.

Also, make the rest of the lines just like the spine, one simple curved line, the less lines are traced the better.

Thank you very much for your words, it makes me so mad I am not part of those people. I have been chasing wild geese this entire time and did random stuff to make me think it serves at something, but now I just feel lost.

your drawings seem to establish pretty well the force of the pose.

I suggest you should take more importance to the legs since they don't seem to distribute the weight of the person you are drawing, one suggestion is to draw one vertical line from a man's torso and then distribute both feets in equal distance from that line, in case the weight is on one foot draw it in the center of that line. One more thing, don't draw each muscle yet, each curve is supposed to be based on the previous curve and give it fluidity, your approach was more building them based on memory and it disrupts the dynamysm of the drawing.

Yeah, it does that sometimes. you just click the british/american flag on top right of the site