Forum posts by Kim

"Fat isn't a part of human anatomy" is a new one to me.

How fat hangs, compresses, stretches, becomes rolls, adds volume and curve as a model twists and bends and exists is an area of study just like bone, muscle, skin and hair. None of these things exist alone, and to draw a convincing human, study of them all and their interactions is necessary.

If you are currently studying exclusively bone, there are actual skeleton references out there. Ditto muscle.

A pose can be exciting or "lame" regardless of the model's size. Doodlers+ can still hide specific poses they don't find satisfactory.

You're all very sweet and charitable in your reading of this post.

My view of this is strongly colored in that in the 15+ years I've been producing and running this site, I have only ever received requests to be able to hide 3 models: Olga (A fat woman), Alex (a fat man), and crytpidcosplayer (transgender and disabled). And inevitably, these requests expand from being able to hide a single model to the entire category that they belong to ("add an option to turn off plus sized models" & "only show real men and women"), sealing off any particular problem with that one particular model and betraying that this is just a type of person the writer does not wish to see. Interestingly, I have so far never received a request to show only fat models.

There have been many times that the tool was overbalanced toward one particular model. When we first added Javani, a very fit, conventionally handsome man, it was extremely common that when selecting to draw men, you would see him not just "every other image" but many times in a row. Not one call to hide Javani, ever. There weren't even an above average number of requests for adding more models, above the constant backgroud hum of artists always wanting more models. (There's a very comparable number of images of Alex and Javani, btw.)

I'm very happy, and committed, to continuing to steadily increase the numbers of models, which will gradually solve any model ratio complaints. But that's not how this was ultimately phrased, nor the request that I actually get regarding fat folks, except when people are trying to do a charitable reading of someone suggesting to hide fat people - or non-binary people.

If the concern is ratio, and just bringing things back into more what you view as balanced, Doodlers and above can snooze or remove images from the tool. Such a concern could be answered by clicking through the tool for a bit and snoozing the images you found less inspiring than others, until things settled into a more acceptable ratio, whatever that might mean to you, between the models.

If the concern is hiding a particular person or type of people with a single click, we don't have that option.

If what a person wants is more models with a wide array of body types, and they wish to urge me to be faster about adding them, it's easy to say that without also suggesting that we hide certain types of people.

There are many thousands of photos, and for each pose there may be multiple lines of actions that could be acceptable depending on if you were going for more realism or more cartooning, so we don't have such a feature. The images used in the tutorial are largely random from our bigger library, so we don't know which ones you saw. :)

• Kim edited this post on September 8, 2023 5:05pm.

I'm sorry you dislike seeing or drawing larger people, but I don't intend to enable excluding them any more than I would allow excluding people of color.

@Fislysandi - This is available for Doodler members and up! :) https://line-of-action.com/article/new-feature-review-images-at-the-end-of-a-session

I think I found it! Please let me know if you have any further problems :)

How strange! It's working for me in Chrome, but I'll go try Firefox. :)

It looks like it is now uploaded fine? This may have been a connection issue with amazon web services, which manages our user images.

Ooh, this could be a really interesting feature...

THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR THIS. I tell people this all the time but they rarely believe me :D

It's very hard to know if this is user error or no, although it does sound like pause was triggered one way or another! I haven't had other reports of pausing issues, so I'm inclined to think it is at least not on our end. I'm glad simply unpausing seemed to be a solution for you, though I totally understand that it was frustrating to have ot.

This is a great idea! :)

Hey there! If you have a doodler/full membership, you can select only poses that include props to get hands holding things :)

This is not a feature we have right now, but I'll add it to my list of things to look into adding! :)

I have changed faces & expressions and animal drawing to utilize checkboxes. You can of course skip making any selections to default to "all" :) Enjoy!