Forum posts by Arvel McClinton

More gestures

I've been trying to practice every day, sometimes I manage hours (when I don't have to work) and other times its just 15-30 minutes : )

We're getting there

I think the issue comes from different examples. When you search for "Gesture drawings" or "Life drawings" Sometimes you'll get examples like this, and other times you'll get something like these or these. All of these examples are sold as "finished gesture drawings", so to a beginner, it feels like obviously I should be shooting for something resembling the second and third examples in thirty seconds or a minute, because they're more complex and seem more "finished".

But that isn't really the case. The first example is gesture, the idea of capturing flow and describing to the viewer what the subject is doing. The second and third examples are further steps in gesture, adding the contours and volume of anatomy and shading.

When doing 30 second gesture you should be concentrating only on that first step. I think I was torn between trying to describe both gesture AND form all in 30 seconds or a minute, at the same time. So I am getting a little bit of gesture inside my drawings, but because I'm rushing to try and shove volume in too, I'm not concentrating on the flow and interconnection of the body as much as I could and should.

Eventually with practice I'm sure you can capture this essential first step of gesture in 10-15 seconds and THATS when you can start adding form into your 30 second drawings.

To be honest, at the moment I'm currently watching an excellent lesson by Glenn Vilppu, and it seems like I was (and still sort of am) missing the point of the gesture.

I was very concentrated on making the gesture look "pretty" or "beautiful" kind of like a completed, or even half completed sketch, but it seems like that isn't really the main idea behind the gesture. It isn't even the first level of a sketch at all, it's not meant to look "pretty", its just supposed to capture the movement of the subject so that the first step can be applied over it.

I feel like a lot of the drawings capture the flow of the subjects, but I think I did that more by accident? Rather than out of understanding.

Hahahaha I've been practicing for so long, will it always feel like you're a beginner? Seems like for the past few years all the art I've been drawing was sort of a waste, and I'm just now learning the basic stuff

Here we are, more gestures, this time 1 minute ones

Hey all! I've been practicing figure drawing for a while now, and while I have improved, I still don't think I'm quite grasping some of the main concepts. When I practice it sometimes feels like I'm just sort of stabbing in the dark and hoping for a good outcome, rather than "knowing" what I'm shooting for and coming up short. That would be totally fine, but practicing something wrong over and over again isn't going to help me out nearly as fast as practicing it correctly will.

Here are some 30 second pictures from a few months ago

versus Some that I did today

The only real improvement that I can see is my lines have become a bit cleaner (which only happened a few days ago to be honest, when I stopped doing scratchy lines in favor of smooth strokes....)

but when I'm drawing the lines for the figures, a lot of the time I don't feel like I'm "seeing" the correct "rhythms" the way most artists and tutorials describe it. Aren't I supposed to know which lines to place on the paper in what order, just by looking? A lot of the time, I find myself staring cluelessly at the model after I draw a head for about 5 seconds and then placing a line through their body that I assume is the "line of action" just because I only have 25 seconds left. Then I desperately place lines around that line to try and "describe" the body? I don't know...

Clearly I could use some help here hahaha...even if its just someone telling me that I actually AM on the right track. Its a little frustrating to practice for months and still feel like you're in the exact same place.