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  • #30803

    HI, I also tried doing a 1 hour long class on poses, here are the results.

    almost all of these poses are not really complete becaue adding new lines ruins the flow of the pose and I do not know how to make it work. Then i just took 2 minutes for the 5 minute poses because I get stuck the moment I have to add new details because anatomy scares the crap out of me and the pose that came out was so different than the reference I wouldn't base on the image to reproduce the details.

    An other question can I ask... what requires to learn to get to this result?

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#30802

hi did it again, almost the exact same way as before...

https://imgur.com/a/tFfhqb8

For those that already saw my previous works, am I improving?

#30801

I am really sorry, for some reason when i try to upload the references on imgur, the site does not save the link and when you open it says 404. I have still the images, if I knew how to make you see them that would be great

#30795

I absolutely thank you. I will try that now and I am sure I will learn

#30793

What goal you want to propose me? I tried searching it around, seeing videos online, but i never found one.

#30792

I tried doing this many times but i the shapes i use end up being wrong. I can't see if I am doing this well, please help.

If i should get a more effective way to learn please tell me, i can accept everything at this point.

https://imgur.com/a/ayAlXwL

#30788

I do not know how i can improve, i am simply doing this activity at repetition and i feel stagnating

#30783

thanks, but, I want to improve? I don't even have high stadards even one simple thing I can change, one step at a time

#30781

Actually I took many of the things I did before in high regard. If anything is what I do now that makes me think I am stagnating. I do not have many other way to explain this, but before, I believed these kind of videos, they gave me the idea that if they succeeded also I can (including that talent makes you a professional without ever working on it and therefore does not exist), i then found out i committed a mistake. I wanted to be like the people that inspired me and the only way i could have gotten proof was to understand at what level they were at my age, until the difference in skill was too much evident and so...

Look, i don't want you to tell me how comparing myself to others isn't healthy and I already found that out by myself. I now know that I am not doing this for anyone else but me and maybe, I would get a little place under the sun while someone else might be in worse condition to begin their journey.

I might try to just do it without thinking and see what happens, i don't know what to say if even this does not work. But at the end... thanks

#30776

Uhhh... so i should try to use practice to produce adrenaline? I usually do not think the grind can be entertaining on its own. if I don't see that doing it is giving me visible improvement I genuinely gets asyier to me and just stop, 'cos I serve a deep hatred for wasted time. When I look back and see how much time had passed I cannot feel anything else but disappointment, also recommanded videos about people showing how much they improved in a year with just practice looking like night and day compared to me really do not help.

#30775

Hi, as said by the title I do not understand why isn't there a button that makes you collect the images you used as a reference, instead, i had to screenshot each and every image one at a time. from less than 10 is fine, but when it comes to more than 20, then THAT'S tedious. I do not understand why the references cannot copied and pasted where I am practicing.

thanks for the time i took from you to read this and goodbye :)

#30774

these are the new study practice I did, i spent 30 seconds for each one of these (sorta). so here they are.

these are the references

I did all of this without a plan and I don't think I learned a something from what I did.

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#30772

Ok, but in what way I should loosen myself up? I am sorry if I sound confused, when I do this, they do not resemble the pose even a little bit. and also someone else that gave me an other suggestion as they drew the poses sorta like I did here but if you think I understood their suggestions poorely I understand, ' cause I tried asking them some questions yet they didn't answer me. Anyways, that's what they said.

https://imgur.com/a/tbEfw5o
I think your simplification of the body is excellent. How much mileage would you say you have in figure drawing? How long were these poses? I assumed they were 3-5 minute poses. Good job overall.
I dont have that many critiques overall for the figures you submitted but I will say you should be more aware of how line weight affects the gesture.

https://imgur.com/a/yzYcBQd

For example, On the gesture I provided above I feel like there is alot of confusion on where the poses weight is shifting which leads to it looking stiff. The way I found a way to exaggerate and find how to push the weight more was through intersecting points throughout the figure. Most of the figure is leaning down and the rest of the body follows along in reception. ( EX) shoulders, pevlis, and left leg. ) The torso and shoulders usually dictates much of where the weight of the pose will go. Before tackling a gesture, try to imagine what way the body would fall if you removed one of the legs. Would it fall to th right? the left? would is stay stationary? Deciphering these small details early on can lead to you having a succesful drawing that is able to envelop that sense of movement, which is the main goal with figure drawing.

https://imgur.com/a/Sv2WxY9

In the next drawing, I find the major issue to be a lack of line confidence, I can see alot of chicken scratch lines and lines that dont connect. It is really interesting because you were able to get it down perfectly with this drawing. ( https://imgur.com/a/6nJHWMX ) This drawing is objectively more appealing than the other because of your use of lines is vastly different. You used too many curves in one compared to the other which is why the body ends up looking balloony. ( EX : https://imgur.com/a/vEWehRe )

It is kinda hard to explain this over text but there are some great books that go over the issue with using too many straight lines and too many curves respectively.
One book I can recommend is FORCE : Mattesi and Micheal Hampton. They go over in depth alot of subjects regarding adding life to your figures. FORCE is more focused on gesture while Mattesi focuses on construction and building a critical eye for simplifiying the body.
- https://www.amazon.com/Force-Dynamic-Drawing-Animators-Second/dp/0240808452
- https://www.amazon.com/Figure-Drawing-Invention-Michael-Hampton/dp/0615272819

https://imgur.com/a/635gUPs

Many of the same issues are present in this drawing as the other one I mentioned with you using too many curves in the drawing. Drawing muscles and adding fat is hard. What I used to try to understand the pose better was through negative space. ( https://imgur.com/a/tj3VAEA ) I blocked in the areas around the figure instead to try to understand and decipher if I was getting closer to my goal. By adding in these blocks I can quickly tell if the size of the arms and body is proportionate without wasting time. For example, I used this method repeatedly on all the figures to tell if the spacing between the legs was too wide or not. Aswell as on the arm to tell the distane from the leg to the arm holding the stick.

Trying to learn how to draw the human body is extremely hard, we are all learning together at our own paces. I think you are going in the right direction. I would definitely reccomend getting those books or trying to ask for more critiques.

#30771

uhmmm, I just did the lessons here and just followed the suggestion to use as much as little lines as possible, but i can tell you, they are not different from when i first started. I just got new suggestions where i am supposed to follow the negative space, but the way they told me I do not understand and they still didn't answered me.

Anywys, what are some of these "techniques" that would make me draw feet better?

#30759

Good for you I should say, because not even with reference I understand what i am doing: if I devide the body in simpler shapes, the shapes fail to capture said part of the body and i do not know why, I tried learning from tracing other images and I didn't learn a thing about structure, it is something that makes me MAD.