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October 23, 2024 4:39pm #32680
Best bet is to find someone whose opinions you trust. Reddit's art community can be really toxic depending on the problem, so I'd avoid it personally.
- Icouldntthinkofaname edited this post on October 23, 2024 8:40pm.
August 19, 2024 12:54pm #32367I completed the challenge myself; it's very common to get tired or burned out at the end and phone it in, rather than progressing in a linear fashion. Are you getting feedback / logging your challenge on the website?
Alternately, DAB may just not be a good fit for you. A lot of people praise it and swear it's the only way to improve, but it's only effective for certain experiences and learning styles; I found that it wasn't very helpful for me, personally.
June 29, 2024 12:00pm #31887I've been seeing your posts, and I think what might help is to slow down a bit and really get into the nitty gritty of studying forms and anatomy (some of yours are very strong, so you already have a decent foundation that might make the curve easier) - right now it feels like you're subscribing to the idea that practicing more will automatically improve your skills, but are you stopping to absorb the information? Are you learning anything?
Doing things like this can sometimes cause you to reinforce your bad habits, and will eventually burn you out. It might be worth adding longer timers, or trying to do things without the use of a timer at all - just take your time and really observe your subjects.
- Icouldntthinkofaname edited this post on June 29, 2024 4:01pm.
June 27, 2024 6:55pm #31871Have had similar issues to you!
I'm not sure what your skill level or experience is currently, but you could either try to keep working on ten-minute poses (it might just be a matter of trial and error and coming to understand what 10 minutes "feels" like to you), or you could stick to shorter timers for now if your attention span isn't having it (I know mine doesn't always). You could also try doing poses without the timers at all, which might take off some of the pressure of trying to fill things in.
I've been exactly where you are with the issue of staying aware of an entire piece. What helped me was just to try to get all of my basics down "at the same time", and then refine them later. This site's tutorial is part of what helped me (starting with the two lines of action, one for the body and one for the arms), though I think I'd need more detail to offer better feedback. Would also recommend Michael Hampton's figure drawing book, which provides a good, simplified breakdown in a similar vein.
June 27, 2024 1:03pm #31866Have dropped off of LoA a bit in favor of doing slower, more careful studies and finding methods that work for me, with a small amount of success!
I've filled several sketchbooks (as well as practiced digitally again), and I'm working on learning to design things that I feel are a ways out of my current skillset (elaborate machines, for example), but I'm not sure what to do to further my studies when it comes to drawing people.
I've gone through Proko's courses, as well as Anatomy for Sculptors and Figure Drawing: Design and Invention, and while I'm practicing things from those still, I feel like I've fallen into a bit of routine, and I want to add more variety to my practices. I have tried Draw A Box and found it wasn't a good fit for me.
Ideas? Thoughts?
May 10, 2024 2:43pm #31569Thank you!!
May 10, 2024 2:42pm #31568Hey, thanks for the speedy reply and comments!!
I'm glad I was wrong here - that's genuinely good to know, thank you for clearing it up! I totally forgot about this, but I had a lot of internet problems (outages, etc) when I first started using the site. I'll keep an eye out and see if the problem persists! Thanks again!
May 10, 2024 1:02pm #31564Saw the other suggestion re: critique, so offering something based on that. I second the emojis not being all that helpful!
I think that the giving good critique guidelines are good in theory! But I needed to go out of my way to find them, and, having had some unpleasant experiences trying to get critique both here and elsewhere, it might help to put them somewhere a little easier to see than a direct link from the Your Studio page (stickied to the top of the critique forum, a shorter version in a small window above the new thread or comment sections, etc).
The critique forums and the critique requests section also contain the same posts, but are treated differently by the site (the forums don't have that "giving good critique" pop-up); it might also be helpful to have the button on "Discuss" go to the latter rather than the former, or to have the site treat them as the same section (if that makes sense).
May 10, 2024 12:47pm #31563Hi, I just checked my profile and noticed that it says I've logged... five hours.
I've been doing 30-minute classes a few times a week for a number of months now, and there was a stretch of time where I was doing them daily. In some cases, I had closed the window too early (did all 30 minutes but didn't see the end screen) or had been interrupted and didn't get back to completed class. Those ones don't seem to have been counted. I know for some I wasn't registered / logged in, but the ones I have done while logged in should be more than that.
Is it possible to have the site count by something like the images you've completed times for, rather than the entire class being marked finished? Or at least to not tie it to seeing the end screen.
Small suggestion spinning off of that is to have an option to opt-out of the tutorial or notifications about completing the tutorial. I've done it twice, but it was only just now marked completed (for possibly the same reasons those hours weren't logged). The tutorial is great for beginners! But I'm here brushing up on existing skills rather than learning to draw, and only completed it much later.
- Icouldntthinkofaname edited this post on May 10, 2024 4:47pm.
- Icouldntthinkofaname edited this post on May 10, 2024 4:48pm.
April 28, 2024 9:34am #31463Maybe some of your problem is that you don't have an aim. Why are you drawing? What's your goal? Are you doing anything outside of studies?
Also, I've similarly had trouble with Loomis. Someone sent me
&pp=ygUcaSBkb250IHVzZSB0aGUgbG9vbWlzIG1ldGhvZA%3D%3D"> this video - it might help you.
(Genuine question, not a jab at you).
(I don't know what's up with the link, sorry!!)
- Icouldntthinkofaname edited this post on April 28, 2024 1:34pm.
- Icouldntthinkofaname edited this post on April 28, 2024 1:35pm.
These look very solid actually! If the method you're using is frustrating you, why not try another method? What type of art style are you aiming for?
Does Proko have challenges / timed exercises?
I'm a longtime watcher of the channel, but I've never actually looked at the website! I'll give Posemaniacs a look.
Big fan of LoA, but have been feeling like my practices lack variety lately, and want to pivot to a more construction-based approach for a bit. I appreciate the work done here and the frequent updates!
I'm really looking for either a site with timed tools (like here) or clear "assignments" / progression / challenges. I already use / used:
- QuickPoses
- SketchDaily's reference site
- Draw A Box
I'm not looking for book recommendations (I own a few that I reference regularly already) or paid courses (out of my budget right now), sorry! Youtube channels are fine, but I already watch Marc Brunet and Proko.
Thank you!
Looking through your posts, though, I can't help but feel like your approach is flawed. Case in point:
"Your figure drawing is exactly what the site intended, so if you want to add more, shading and anatomy studies are an other beast entirely.
This being said, my exercises fail to achieve that objective: my lines are messy and loose; i don't get the simplification of the shapes of the reference... I basically suck at making progress. So, i want to ask you some tips on how to achieve that quality in your studies.
i know in this case you are supposed to get more of a feedback, but in your case you are doing a phenomenal job that to me seems quite evident you already understand the subject well."
You complimented this person, but you also talked about how much you suck, and while I sympathize with the feeling, it's not really appropriate to go onto someone else's work to tell them that they're so much better than you and that you suck in comparison, it puts them in an awkward position. Additionally, you're asking in spaces where others are looking for critique on their own work, rather than posting your own work for critique (though I see you've also done that).
That being said, this site isn't super active to begin with, so I'd recommend looking in more than one place if possible. You should also try to narrow down what you want to improve and ask about that - "Do you have any tips for more fluid gestures?" rather than "How did you do that?". Insights into your process and approach may also get you better advice.
Finally, a lot of people will... just not necessarily give good or relevant advice, speaking from experience.
Haven't posted in a long time, but suggestions:
1. Practice tracing the references. Can you isolate larger shapes if you're drawing on top of the reference, or at least use that to figure out more specific issues you have? That might be the first step.
2. Use simpler references. This may depend on your individual goal, but it may be worth looking at other peoples' processes and rough sketches. There are fundamentals, but not everyone has the same base process.
3. Use larger references / zoom in. Sounds obvious, but if you work digitally, are you always zoomed out? If you work traditionally, how big are your drawings, and how big are your references?
4. See a doctor if you can. If you can't get it seemingly no matter what you do, it may be worth looking into the possibility of a vision issue (or adjacent - neurological issue, etc), or making sure it's not that. If there is an issue, you may be able to figure out accommodations for it.
I'm not sure of your experience or individual goals to have an incredibly informed opinion, but I hope something helps.